Angry and Black Since 1976; Somebody's Momma Since 2010
2009-03-27
Tyra Can Find Crazy Folks
The Christian guy (his name, not religion) needs his ass beat. Of course his ass is from Texas.
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I found the episode sad, i know they type cast these people to get high ratings, but it was sad. The black woman who was crying, I understood where she was coming from but i also found it quite embarassing. Its so embarassing for bw to go on tv and broadcast to the world that no one wants us. Soo embarassing
I saw this on another blog, I tried to watch it but it just made me cringe too bad. I agree with anonymous, I think they were looking for specific type of person and they went out and found them to prove their point,hence the black woman calling black males who date white females self-hating, but held a double standard when it came to black women and white males. Many folks already hold the belief that "MOST" black women are up in arms about black men dating interacially, so they went out and found this heffa to prove their point, which is I think BS. I personally can care less who other folks are dating or why for that matter, it is none of my damn business. This show would have been better if they would have picked random people to discuss how stereotypes can be extremely harmful, not certain types of folks who they think will give them ratings.
The black woman who was crying, I understood where she was coming from but i also found it quite embarassing. Its so embarassing for bw to go on tv and broadcast to the world that no one wants us.
The world, at least some of the world already believes that, I just don't understand why she had to cry about it, but I think that is a black thing, black women are supposed to internalize and suck up everything, while other folks are given a free pass to whine and cry about the most insignificant things.
I hate it when she does these shows because, honestly, I don't feel as if Tyra is capable of truly discussing these issues. She just dismissed the black woman who was crying by telling her she was picking the wrong men, yet she spent so much time on the Latino man and the Middle Eastern man. I don't know why, but I get the impression that Tyra is NOT happy with herself as she claims to be.
And this show didn't really make any impact on me. How is it that all of those extreme racists have all seen the light by the end of the show? I believe that all people have the ability to change, but that was too fast and they didn't even learn anything.
I just took the time to watch this the other day, and it bothers me that Tyra never has shrinks on the show to handle the deeper issues. Nothing can be easily wrapped up in 45 minutes like that.
I do notice this odd disdain she has towards Black women, on her talk show and ANTM (acting funny towards Kelle from Cycle 3 since she was the "White/Black girl," or cursing out Tiffany, her "ghetto" pet project in Cycle 4). I never saw the episode, but I heard that she acted like what Supahead did was so gross, but praised Dennis Rodman for it. Both of those people are gross to me, but Tyra has a weird nasty vibe towards Black women. (And yes, I remember the odd hour with her and Naomi.) She has deep issues that need to be addressed.
I honestly don't believe that any of these racists could have their hearts grow three times bigger like Dr. Seuss' Grinch by the end of this episode. I suspect they're actors.
Upon looking at the video, I can see why some people would be upset at the girl crying. I personally am becoming apathetic to black women who swear that no one wants them. I'm NOT insulting the young lady but she was overweight which probably has more to do with her lack of dates than her color.
I'm NOT insulting the young lady but she was overweight which probably has more to do with her lack of dates than her color.
Fat chicks get men every single day, I live in Texas and see fat women get chased by decent looking men everyday. Most people in America are overweight and they still manage to get married. If weight was the only issue keeping her from getting dates, that would mean she would need to relocate somewhere else.
In my child birthing classes, there is three other IR couples (two BM/WW and one WM/BW), and none of those women are size 6, and they still managed to get men. One white women in the couples I just mentioned is close to being 300 lbs and they just got married a year ago. The BW/WM couple the woman doesn't look like she missed a meal either.
Fat and overweight folks get married and have babies everyday.
The no one wants you cause you are fat theory, is on par with white women assuming that a man of any race would choose them over a black woman theory.
The no one wants you cause you are fat theory, is on par with white women assuming that a man of any race would choose them over a black woman theory.--Siditty
I never said that overweight women couldn't get men nor am I saying that thin women were the only ones "in." But I cannot deny what I see, a woman (or man) is more likely to snag the opposite sex if they are as close to a healthy weight as possible. Every woman I know says that her dating life improved after losing weight.
A healthy body appears to work miracles in the dating world.
The black woman who was crying, I understood where she was coming from but i also found it quite embarassing. Its so embarassing for bw to go on tv and broadcast to the world that no one wants us. Soo embarassing ____________________________
Anon, why is the truth embarassing to you? Shouldn't it be liberating?
I'm always puzzled by black women who don't want to see the things they experience everyday reflected back at them and acknowledged.
On one hand it seems like we are asking to be validated, and yet when we are, it's inadequate some because our experiences are too truthful.
I'm always puzzled by black women who don't want to see the things they experience everyday reflected back at them and acknowledged.
On one hand it seems like we are asking to be validated, and yet when we are, it's inadequate some because our experiences are too truthful.
Exactly. I see people on blogs everyday sharing these sentiments of beauty standards being biased against women of color, and how these beauty standards have made black women feel inadequate and caused various races of men to act as if black beauty doesn't exist. She says it on national television, she is an embarrassment, and Tyra dismisses her views as choosing the wrong men.
Upon looking at the video, I can see why some people would be upset at the girl crying. I personally am becoming apathetic to black women who swear that no one wants them. I'm NOT insulting the young lady but she was overweight which probably has more to do with her lack of dates than her color.
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Lormarie, do you really believe black women who are overweight can't get any dates?
Groan.
I have to say it. Women like you get on my nerves. You make bigoted assumptions about what fat black women can and cannot get. What you fail to see are the tons of closeted men who actually desire overweight women. They may even be your boyfriends, lovers, or husbands. I can't tell you how many times in my life I've been desired, hit on, stalked, by men unwilling to OPENLY admit their desire for a woman of my size.
I've seen more than enough smug thin women stand by in a sense of false security, that I wasn't the one their men really wanted. The only reason some men date thinner women is they're less taboo to be seen with than the fat chick next door. Sometimes I pray aging and menopause throws 100 pounds of extra body fat on women who feel so emboldened to talk smack about fat women.
I didn't see the clip, but, again, I'm so surprised that people here can't handle genuine emotion. I often cry about not getting what I want, NOT what I can get. I'm sure when the black woman in the clip makes general statements about not being wanted, it doesn't mean nobody wants her. It's more likely, nobody of her choosing wants her. There is a difference. I think you all are being way too literalistic. Then again I didn't see the clip so I'll post comments after I've viewed it.
The no one wants you cause you are fat theory, is on par with white women assuming that a man of any race would choose them over a black woman theory. ______________________________
Thank you Sid! That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's smug, narcissistic, and it fosters a sense of false security in those white women and the thin black women here who are so critical of overweight BW.
But I cannot deny what I see, a woman (or man) is more likely to snag the opposite sex if they are as close to a healthy weight as possible. Every woman I know says that her dating life improved after losing weight.
You basically said that he probably didn't have a man because she is fat, so why are there so many thin single women? Weight isn't an indicator of marriage material. I am not talking about 600 lb women. Like I said, I see fat white women with men every day. I see fat black women in relationships everyday. It is ludicrous to assume all single men are fit and healthy. My husband hooked up with me, and I probably wasn't at my smallest when I met him, my weight has fluctuated over the years. I am currently sporting a fashionable pregnancy belly, and he doesn't seem to have an issue with it. In matter of fact he encourages me to gain weight, as I lost weight in my first trimester, and have only gained a pound back in my second trimester.
You do not have to be model thin to find love.
I remember at my smallest getting approached by men I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, even if I was a size 30. I see thin women with ugly fat men all the time.
Maybe it is a Texas thing, but fat folks can find love here.
Hmmm this is very interesting. See when somthing is viewed as not attractive that doesn't mean that a woman can not get any attention. However, it is mainly locality. I know where I stay the youger men tend to go for the thick black women than the thinner and big women. As you get older things start to change. I see more of a variation.
I know this isn't going to be popular, but I agree with Tyra. The crying black chick is dating the wrong men. I'm just as dark as she is and I've ALWAYS had boyfriends - all different races and all different ages. I've had my share of turning men down because I wasn't interested. It's weird because this woman was cute - yes, a little overweight, but I see overweight women with guys all of the time. I don't understand why she was so desperate sounding. I honestly don't.
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I found the episode sad, i know they type cast these people to get high ratings, but it was sad. The black woman who was crying, I understood where she was coming from but i also found it quite embarassing. Its so embarassing for bw to go on tv and broadcast to the world that no one wants us. Soo embarassing
Christian does not sound black at all, what was tyra talking??
@ anon,
my thoughts exactly. Wailing on tv about'......(insert race) men don't want me'. Its just so pathetic.
I saw this on another blog, I tried to watch it but it just made me cringe too bad. I agree with anonymous, I think they were looking for specific type of person and they went out and found them to prove their point,hence the black woman calling black males who date white females self-hating, but held a double standard when it came to black women and white males. Many folks already hold the belief that "MOST" black women are up in arms about black men dating interacially, so they went out and found this heffa to prove their point, which is I think BS. I personally can care less who other folks are dating or why for that matter, it is none of my damn business. This show would have been better if they would have picked random people to discuss how stereotypes can be extremely harmful, not certain types of folks who they think will give them ratings.
The black woman who was crying, I understood where she was coming from but i also found it quite embarassing. Its so embarassing for bw to go on tv and broadcast to the world that no one wants us.
The world, at least some of the world already believes that, I just don't understand why she had to cry about it, but I think that is a black thing, black women are supposed to internalize and suck up everything, while other folks are given a free pass to whine and cry about the most insignificant things.
I hate it when she does these shows because, honestly, I don't feel as if Tyra is capable of truly discussing these issues. She just dismissed the black woman who was crying by telling her she was picking the wrong men, yet she spent so much time on the Latino man and the Middle Eastern man. I don't know why, but I get the impression that Tyra is NOT happy with herself as she claims to be.
And this show didn't really make any impact on me. How is it that all of those extreme racists have all seen the light by the end of the show? I believe that all people have the ability to change, but that was too fast and they didn't even learn anything.
(I still love her show though!)
I just took the time to watch this the other day, and it bothers me that Tyra never has shrinks on the show to handle the deeper issues. Nothing can be easily wrapped up in 45 minutes like that.
I do notice this odd disdain she has towards Black women, on her talk show and ANTM (acting funny towards Kelle from Cycle 3 since she was the "White/Black girl," or cursing out Tiffany, her "ghetto" pet project in Cycle 4). I never saw the episode, but I heard that she acted like what Supahead did was so gross, but praised Dennis Rodman for it. Both of those people are gross to me, but Tyra has a weird nasty vibe towards Black women. (And yes, I remember the odd hour with her and Naomi.) She has deep issues that need to be addressed.
I honestly don't believe that any of these racists could have their hearts grow three times bigger like Dr. Seuss' Grinch by the end of this episode. I suspect they're actors.
I know the post isn't about Tyra but the issue on the table but, I can't stand Tyra. Dont know why but, I absolutely dislike her.
1st anon, i agree. this was embarrassing, and that's why it ended up on tv.
Upon looking at the video, I can see why some people would be upset at the girl crying. I personally am becoming apathetic to black women who swear that no one wants them. I'm NOT insulting the young lady but she was overweight which probably has more to do with her lack of dates than her color.
I'm NOT insulting the young lady but she was overweight which probably has more to do with her lack of dates than her color.
Fat chicks get men every single day, I live in Texas and see fat women get chased by decent looking men everyday. Most people in America are overweight and they still manage to get married. If weight was the only issue keeping her from getting dates, that would mean she would need to relocate somewhere else.
In my child birthing classes, there is three other IR couples (two BM/WW and one WM/BW), and none of those women are size 6, and they still managed to get men. One white women in the couples I just mentioned is close to being 300 lbs and they just got married a year ago. The BW/WM couple the woman doesn't look like she missed a meal either.
Fat and overweight folks get married and have babies everyday.
The no one wants you cause you are fat theory, is on par with white women assuming that a man of any race would choose them over a black woman theory.
The no one wants you cause you are fat theory, is on par with white women assuming that a man of any race would choose them over a black woman theory.--Siditty
I never said that overweight women couldn't get men nor am I saying that thin women were the only ones "in." But I cannot deny what I see, a woman (or man) is more likely to snag the opposite sex if they are as close to a healthy weight as possible. Every woman I know says that her dating life improved after losing weight.
A healthy body appears to work miracles in the dating world.
The black woman who was crying, I understood where she was coming from but i also found it quite embarassing. Its so embarassing for bw to go on tv and broadcast to the world that no one wants us. Soo embarassing
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Anon, why is the truth embarassing to you? Shouldn't it be liberating?
I'm always puzzled by black women who don't want to see the things they experience everyday reflected back at them and acknowledged.
On one hand it seems like we are asking to be validated, and yet when we are, it's inadequate some because our experiences are too truthful.
I'm always puzzled by black women who don't want to see the things they experience everyday reflected back at them and acknowledged.
On one hand it seems like we are asking to be validated, and yet when we are, it's inadequate some because our experiences are too truthful.
Exactly. I see people on blogs everyday sharing these sentiments of beauty standards being biased against women of color, and how these beauty standards have made black women feel inadequate and caused various races of men to act as if black beauty doesn't exist. She says it on national television, she is an embarrassment, and Tyra dismisses her views as choosing the wrong men.
Upon looking at the video, I can see why some people would be upset at the girl crying. I personally am becoming apathetic to black women who swear that no one wants them. I'm NOT insulting the young lady but she was overweight which probably has more to do with her lack of dates than her color.
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Lormarie, do you really believe black women who are overweight can't get any dates?
Groan.
I have to say it. Women like you get on my nerves. You make bigoted assumptions about what fat black women can and cannot get. What you fail to see are the tons of closeted men who actually desire overweight women. They may even be your boyfriends, lovers, or husbands. I can't tell you how many times in my life I've been desired, hit on, stalked, by men unwilling to OPENLY admit their desire for a woman of my size.
I've seen more than enough smug thin women stand by in a sense of false security, that I wasn't the one their men really wanted. The only reason some men date thinner women is they're less taboo to be seen with than the fat chick next door. Sometimes I pray aging and menopause throws 100 pounds of extra body fat on women who feel so emboldened to talk smack about fat women.
I didn't see the clip, but, again, I'm so surprised that people here can't handle genuine emotion. I often cry about not getting what I want, NOT what I can get. I'm sure when the black woman in the clip makes general statements about not being wanted, it doesn't mean nobody wants her. It's more likely, nobody of her choosing wants her. There is a difference. I think you all are being way too literalistic. Then again I didn't see the clip so I'll post comments after I've viewed it.
The no one wants you cause you are fat theory, is on par with white women assuming that a man of any race would choose them over a black woman theory.
______________________________
Thank you Sid! That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's smug, narcissistic, and it fosters a sense of false security in those white women and the thin black women here who are so critical of overweight BW.
But I cannot deny what I see, a woman (or man) is more likely to snag the opposite sex if they are as close to a healthy weight as possible. Every woman I know says that her dating life improved after losing weight.
You basically said that he probably didn't have a man because she is fat, so why are there so many thin single women? Weight isn't an indicator of marriage material. I am not talking about 600 lb women. Like I said, I see fat white women with men every day. I see fat black women in relationships everyday. It is ludicrous to assume all single men are fit and healthy. My husband hooked up with me, and I probably wasn't at my smallest when I met him, my weight has fluctuated over the years. I am currently sporting a fashionable pregnancy belly, and he doesn't seem to have an issue with it. In matter of fact he encourages me to gain weight, as I lost weight in my first trimester, and have only gained a pound back in my second trimester.
You do not have to be model thin to find love.
I remember at my smallest getting approached by men I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, even if I was a size 30. I see thin women with ugly fat men all the time.
Maybe it is a Texas thing, but fat folks can find love here.
Hmmm this is very interesting. See when somthing is viewed as not attractive that doesn't mean that a woman can not get any attention. However, it is mainly locality. I know where I stay the youger men tend to go for the thick black women than the thinner and big women. As you get older things start to change. I see more of a variation.
I know this isn't going to be popular, but I agree with Tyra. The crying black chick is dating the wrong men. I'm just as dark as she is and I've ALWAYS had boyfriends - all different races and all different ages. I've had my share of turning men down because I wasn't interested. It's weird because this woman was cute - yes, a little overweight, but I see overweight women with guys all of the time. I don't understand why she was so desperate sounding. I honestly don't.
I feel sick watching this
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