Thanks Acting Drama for the video.
Rusty DePass is a GOP activist with a facebook page. Someone left a comment about an escaped gorilla at a zoo. His response:
"I'm sure it's just one of Michelle's ancestors - probably harmless."
Yes he did. He compared the First Lady of the United States to a gorilla. A GORILLA. You know you can't compare black people to primates. That is some harsh stuff there. That feeds into the belief that many a white held for years that black people really aren't human, but closer to being an animal. My great uncle once told me that while he was fighting in Korea, the Korean people would ask the black military men if they had tails. They really thought they were monkeys. I am still in awe about that. How dumb and ignorant must one be to ask that question?
I know this man has to know black people are no more direct descendants to monkeys or gorilla than any other race of people, but oh, well I guess he doesn't give a damn. Macon D over at his blog has a great post about white people comparing black folks to monkeys and apes. It is a bit sad, but it is a great post.
What is even more shocking is that this man has apologized, but only half assed, after all it is Michelle's fault for him making the comparison:
"The comment was hers, not mine"
I am trying to figure out where Michelle ever said she was related to Bubbles the monkey or Koko the gorilla. Oh wait, I CAN'T!!!!!!!! Maybe she took a stance on evolution, but I don't think she ever said she, herself was a direct descendant of a gorilla.
Again we blame the victim. It is a great tactic used by many a racist, why stop now. Again a black woman is insulted and degraded, and people are shrugging it off as if it is her fault. Michelle is being treated as other, as if she is too animalistic to even be respected as a woman, much less a First Lady.
It simply amazes me in "post racial" America, we have people comparing their President, as well as First Lady to monkeys and gorillas. It scares me that this isn't even the first time it happened. Remember this:
Post racial America my ass.
65 comments:
I love your blog-I read it everyday! I usually don't comment on post but I had to comment on this one. Especially after reading about your uncle who fought in Korea.
I am living in Korea now teaching ESL and a few weeks ago I was at a snack counter and a group of high school boys started making monkey sounds at me. One even told me to "go home". All I could think about was how fucked up it was that I came halfway around the world to be called a monkey at a lunch counter in this "post racial"(insert sarcastic smirk here) year of 2009. I was so shocked by the irony of it all that I couldn't even get angry.
It's good to know that no matter what we accomplish (Mrs. O graduated Ivy for Christsakes!) or where we go, many will still see us as primates.
Critisizing the 1st family is nothing new... no matter who that family is.
What is amazing to me is how many people refuse to recognize the racism in the current critisizm.
Sorry Jeb but yes, callin "W" a monkey is not nice but calloing Obama a monkey is a whole other story.
situations like these and the half-assed apologies in the aftermath no longer surprise me. closeted racism only remains hiding for so long. it's just disappointing that some persons can't even see past their prejudices to respect a First Lady.
White people are some of the most if not the most ignorant beings on the planet. They spew this shit out so much that they really do believe it and then turn around and think they are superior than everyone else because they are WHITE. No race relations will always be fucked up between white and black people because of white people. THis is the shit that can make you hate their dumbasses. I have to keep in mind though that there are alot of white people who are not this ignorant and stupid. I have to keep that in mind.
If such disparaging comments were ever uttered about another FLOTUS, that person would've been flogged, either literally or figuratively -- but they would've gotten their due...
I mean this all but proves that black women are less than; had the same comment been made about President Obama I think there would be a bigger uproar. There's just no concern for black women in this country and that is so disheartening.
That is really fucked up. I know it isn't easy when some monster opens his mouth, but try and remember that most white people aren't like that, but the minority who are tend to be the loudest, as sad as that is. If I could/can offer an apology on behalf of my race that would actually carry any weight, I would/do.
I am living in Korea now teaching ESL and a few weeks ago I was at a snack counter and a group of high school boys started making monkey sounds at me. One even told me to "go home". All I could think about was how fucked up it was that I came halfway around the world to be called a monkey at a lunch counter in this "post racial"(insert sarcastic smirk here) year of 2009. I was so shocked by the irony of it all that I couldn't even get angry.
I hate the whole "go home" rhetoric too. Why don't other groups go home. Like back to Europe, Asia, Latin America, etc. I've never been to Africa, but yet that is "my home"? Why is that?
You are so nice, I wouldn't have been so nice to the guys making monkey sounds, I would have beat them down. OK I wouldn't, but I would want to.
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Critisizing the 1st family is nothing new... no matter who that family is.
What is amazing to me is how many people refuse to recognize the racism in the current critisizm.
Exactly. I am blowing off the "black women are masculine" vibes when folks talk about Michelle's arms, but honestly the monkey thing is way too far.
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situations like these and the half-assed apologies in the aftermath no longer surprise me. closeted racism only remains hiding for so long. it's just disappointing that some persons can't even see past their prejudices to respect a First Lady.
Exactly. It always surfaces, but instead of people facing it head on, they shrug it off and sweep it under the rug. Race relations can't improve if this is the reaction.
White people are some of the most if not the most ignorant beings on the planet. They spew this shit out so much that they really do believe it and then turn around and think they are superior than everyone else because they are WHITE. No race relations will always be fucked up between white and black people because of white people.
To be fair it comes from both sides. I have my own moments myself after watching "Roots" or seeing crap like this, but I can't assume this is all white people, and I know at least some know why this statement is wrong.
If such disparaging comments were ever uttered about another FLOTUS, that person would've been flogged, either literally or figuratively -- but they would've gotten their due...
I mean this all but proves that black women are less than; had the same comment been made about President Obama I think there would be a bigger uproar. There's just no concern for black women in this country and that is so disheartening.
That is the saddest thing that even with a black president and black first lady, it is still painfully obvious that as a person of color, you are still considered "less than".
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That is really fucked up. I know it isn't easy when some monster opens his mouth, but try and remember that most white people aren't like that, but the minority who are tend to be the loudest, as sad as that is. If I could/can offer an apology on behalf of my race that would actually carry any weight, I would/do.
I think, at least I hope I do, most know this isn't the norm, but it just saddens me that this still goes on. It's frustrating.
I'm glad that the mayor of Colombia, SC called this guy's comment out for what it was, racist and disrespectful to the first lady. Also, if an apology is going to be half hearted, just don't give it at all!
I'm glad that the mayor of Colombia, SC called this guy's comment out for what it was, racist and disrespectful to the first lady. Also, if an apology is going to be half hearted, just don't give it at all!
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That's right. To hell with him and others who think like him. Keep your fake ass apologies to your selves and go to hell while you're at it.
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I just saw this story and came over here. Mhen, I wonder what more is in store over the next 4-8yrs. I take incidents like these as a reminder that no matter what, Black people are perceived a certain way not by just whites but everyone else. And yeah, you will have all those people saying not all are like that but we know the truth.
These incidents remind us of our intended place in humanity. Blacks seem not to fully get it. I find Black people overly optimistic. Yes there is good in giving people the benefit of doubt, but the system as it is set out here is actually designed to destroy the Black person. Individual whites can claim not being prejudiced and they may very well not be but the system is bigger than them. Its in place and it is on the roll inching its way over the black person daily. You see it every where, its active, its has a life of its own. You see it when you go shopping, when cops slow down their cars to take a look at you, when people cross roads, when you are denied decent housing, employment etc. These are not things of the past they are here with us and will be around for a long time. Today its just taking longer to achieve complete destruction but the process in non the less still going on.
I take incidents and comments like this as the psychology of this system. The "rare" individual vocalizes the intentions of the machinery.
Comments like this should never be taken lightly unless ofcourse society wishes for their aim to be achieved.
And its clear that the BW is not priority here. There would be more uproar if it was directed at the President.
All black people in America seem to be on this path to hell but the BW seems to be closer to that destination.
Classical 1 was right. Black and White people will never come to terms. Ever.
There is this common plee from people, "not all of us are like that". The same defense given by Black Male apologists. 'Not all black men are like that'.
But where are all these good people to defend the dignity of the person under attack ?
The Mayor in this case did good. The Mayor, a white Southern Male. Where is Al Shapton and Co. ?
Evil can only be defeated when well meaning members of the dominant group stand up against it. The evil being perpetrated against the BW by BM is seeing no resistance at all. The evil we call racism gets more resistance from well meaning whites than Black misogyny.
But all in all the evil against the BW is receiving very little resistance from neither well meaning Black men or whites.
Mrs. O graduated Ivy base on affirmative action not on merit.
I LOVE how DePass blamed Michelle Obama and said that SHE was the one who first said the comment that we all came from primates. Even if she did say this (there hasn't been any evidence yet), this man knows the negative history of black people being compared to apes. He knew exatly what he was doing. But he was probably thinking, "Oh, well, it's on Facebook. No one will ever see it." Wrong. Sometimes, it seems as though being a conservative and being racist goes hand in hand.
And the man who's running against him? He's only ashamed of DePass's comments because it makes his city look bad. He would not have been outraged otherwise. Sometimes, I wonder if it's okay to bash black women. The next time a white woman is bashed publicly (does this happen much?), I'll look out for the media's reaction.
Mrs. O graduated Ivy base on affirmative action not on merit.
Do you have a copy of her transcripts can you prove that accusation you just made, or were you being a racist and making an assumption that her skin color granted her automatic access to higher education?
Do you question Hillary Clinton or Laura Bush on their educational backgrounds, after all WHITE WOMEN are a protected class under Affirmative Action.
is anyone truly surpised by this Republican idea of what is funny??
They will never save their reputation with stuff like this, Maybe they don't want to, after all what Party would Joe The Plumber vote for?????
This kind on nonsense was the whole tone of McCain and especially Palins campaign..
Oh, and yes yes my Father who was in WWII and Korea toldme the same stories about the "tails".
If you want to talk about someone closely related a gorilla, take a good look at Rod Blagojevic
Hillary and Laura?
Heavens, what about "W"?
Chack his transcript. Dude is a classic example of the oldest form of "affirmative action" there is.
Where is the cry against legacy?
Of course thats a rhetorical question. Anon was just trolling and we know it.
*sighs* Are we really surprised by this? Honestly?
Do you question Hillary Clinton or Laura Bush on their educational backgrounds, after all WHITE WOMEN are a protected class under Affirmative Action.
In my brief experience on this planet, many white women in America are very quick to say that Affirmative Action has never helped them in any way, shape, or form even if they have reaped benefits from that policy.
I wonder if it is a way of perpetuating the oppression that galvanized their feminist movements?
If they rail about being denied by AA, it would put them on more equal footing with white males in the outrage department.
It would also allow them to continue excluding women from the "mainstream" feminism movement under the premise of banding together against the "inadequate" hordes of not-so-pale people that are taking what is "theirs."
Do you question Hillary Clinton or Laura Bush on their educational backgrounds, after all WHITE WOMEN are a protected class under Affirmative Action.
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Actually Siditty, white women benefit more from Affirmative Action than black people do. But hey, it's a secret. It's better to accuse qualified blacks of leeching off more deserving white folk.
brohammas said:
"Hillary and Laura?
Heavens, what about "W"?
Chack his transcript. Dude is a classic example of the oldest form of "affirmative action" there is.
Where is the cry against legacy?"
This is a very good point. Bush only made it through college because of nepotism. At least with affirmative action the person is at least not a complete dumbass, unlike with nepotism, the only requirement is being born--and that wasn't even the person's choice/idea. White women definetly benefit more from affirmative action than anyone else, think of all the scholarships specifically made for women (though they aren't race specific, there are of course more white women in America than other races, so percentage wise, they'd benefit more).
The "GOP = racist conservative white men" idea will never change w little incidents like this, it's just expected that they'll say something stupid to piss off minorities and therefor alienate them.
"Oh, and yes yes my Father who was in WWII and Korea toldme the same stories about the "tails"."
I heard it was the white soldiers who were going around spreading the tail/monkey stories to the locals -- especially in European countries. They were hoping to keep blacks as segregated, feared & hated as they were when back in the States; they especially wanted to keep them away from the European women.
yeah during WWII the tail theory was spread in the south pacific too to get the samoan women to avoid black soldiers, but it didn't really work. they ended up equally appreciating both the black and white soldiers. About the michelle thing, I am just tired of getting crazy about this stuff, i'm just so exhausted. if it makes people feel better to call black people monkies...whatever. As long as they're not physically hurting me, i'm too tired to give a damn...i know i'm not a monkey, deep inside they know i'm not a monkey too so whatever.
The biggest lie is that WHITE WOMEN are a protected class under Affirmative Action. No white woman got into any school based on affirmative action...ever. I don't know about Bush but Clinton fineshed top of her class. Only blacks and some Hispanics are protected under AA. Michelle Obama is also a child of privilege.
In a interview with Newsweek, Obama reveals that she got into Princeton University not on the strength of her grades, which she admits were unexceptional, but thanks to her brother Craig, a star athlete and gifted student who preceded her to the school. As a “legacy” candidate and a beneficiary of affirmative action, Michelle Obama was granted an opportunity that others more accomplished were denied. Nor, according to friends quoted in the article, did Obama object when she was later accepted to Harvard as part of the school’s outreach to minority students. “She recognized that she had been privileged by affirmative action and she was very comfortable with that,” her friend recalls. Here is the link to the article, http://www.newsweek.com/id/112849/page/7
one more thing what did michelle obama do to deserve this kind of ill treatment? Umm...didnt' george bush's wife run someone over with a car? I don't remember her being treated this way, what did michelle ever do? I don't know the woman, but dag...
"Mrs. O graduated Ivy base on affirmative action not on merit."
don't be silly, you have to work hard in an ivy league, regardless...
The biggest lie is that WHITE WOMEN are a protected class under Affirmative Action. No white woman got into any school based on affirmative action...ever. I don't know about Bush but Clinton fineshed top of her class. Only blacks and some Hispanics are protected under AA.
The troll must be a woman. Only blacks are protected under AA? This is the biggest joke ever. You are delusional as well as uneducated.
From the EEOC:
"Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 protects individuals against employment discrimination on the basis of sex as well as race, color, national origin, and religion. Title VII applies to employers with 15 or more employees, including state and local governments. It also applies to employment agencies and to labor organizations, as well as to the federal government.
It is unlawful to discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of his/her sex in regard to hiring, termination, promotion, compensation, job training, or any other term, condition, or privilege of employment. Title VII also prohibits employment decisions based on stereotypes and assumptions about abilities, traits, or the performance of individuals on the basis of sex. Title VII prohibits both intentional discrimination and neutral job policies that disproportionately exclude individuals on the basis of sex and that are not job related."
Last time I checked, the gender that was being protected was women, not men. So right now the biggest lie I see is YOU. White women would be a protected class. Of course, again you are either too ignorant or too uneducated to know such things, which is why racism continues to this day.
Another thing to consider, the EQUAL PAY ACT OF 1963 and
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
It just galls me that these idiots make comments like these and think it's acceptable. Like some feeble attempt at making a stupid joke or even saying they are sorry makes it ok. I am not that optimistic about race relations-- I go back and forth on it. Just when I think that things are getting better, comments like these let me know that it's still out there and some people want to justify it or downplay it.
It just galls me that these idiots make comments like these and think it's acceptable. Like some feeble attempt at making a stupid joke or even saying they are sorry makes it ok. I am not that optimistic about race relations-- I go back and forth on it. Just when I think that things are getting better, comments like these let me know that it's still out there and some people want to justify it or downplay it.
Classical 1 was right. Black and White people will never come to terms. Ever
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And a major reason is because white people with happy with the status quo. Why would they care about race relations. They don't have shit to lose if relations improve or don't. So I say fuck them.
The dumbest part about suggesting the First Lady graduated because of affirmative action is that even IF that's how she got in, that's NOT how she stayed, that's NOT how she got the grades, that's NOT how she gradated.
"Mrs. O graduated Ivy base on affirmative action not on merit."
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I'll have you know that Mrs. Obama graduated 2nd in her high school class (salutatorian). She deserved her spot at Princeton!!
"Both skipped second grade (both their parents also skipped a grade). By sixth grade, Michelle joined a gifted class at what is now Bouchet Elementary, at 73rd and Jeffery.
The gifted program exposed Michelle to three years of French before she graduated as class salutatorian, and, for two years, to special biology classes at Kennedy King College."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/221458,CST-NWS-mich21.article
From http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/221458,CST-NWS-mich21.article
"Three years after the city's first magnet high school opened, Michelle joined a group of hand-picked freshmen at state-of-the-art Whitney Young.
At Young, Michelle made the honor roll four years running, took advanced placement classes, was in the National Honor Society. She was student council treasurer and a member of the fundraising publicity committee."
From another website:
http://www.biography.com/articles/michelle-obama-307592
"Michelle graduated in 1981 from Whitney M. Young Magnet High School in Chicago's West Loop as class salutatorian. After high school, she followed her brother to Princeton University, graduating cum laude in 1985 with a B.A. in Sociology. She went on to earn a J.D. from Harvard Law School in 1988, where she took part in demonstrations demanding more minority students and professors."
Well I see Sarah Palin sparked outraged from people about the remarks Letterman made. She can make all kinds of insensitive remarks about anyone but when it comes back on her she cannot handle it and there is public outcry. I don't think Letterman should have apologized. Fuck Palin.
Yet the first lady who has done nothing but be a very gracious first lady and supportive wife and good mother and humantiarian gets totally disrespected. Someone here said no matter what we do or accomplish we still get disrespected and critisized. You have never lied.
Sandra thank you for proving the Anon asshole wrong about Michelle. You will always have some people who will think every person of color has only reached success because of affirmative action. Retards
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maybe I'm just being abnoxious, but it could be noted that though Michelle was perfectly qualified, that does not mean she did not benefit from affirmative action.
Qualified people of color have been excluded for generations. That is the point of Affirmative Action, to help qualified people get a chance.
I'm guessing none of us were on the admissions panel but maybe she got in both because she was qualified and because of Affirmative action?
Either way, she only graduated because of qualification/merit.
Graduated ahead of a LOT of people who only got in because they "deserved" it.
just sayin'
maybe I'm just being abnoxious, but it could be noted that though Michelle was perfectly qualified, that does not mean she did not benefit from affirmative action.
Qualified people of color have been excluded for generations. That is the point of Affirmative Action, to help qualified people get a chance.
I'm guessing none of us were on the admissions panel but maybe she got in both because she was qualified and because of Affirmative action?
Either way, she only graduated because of qualification/merit.
Graduated ahead of a LOT of people who only got in because they "deserved" it.
just sayin'
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That's another way to look at it. Good point.
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No, you're ignorant asshole. In today's world no college accepts ww based on them being a woman, nor do most business. That law was written decades ago. I'm talking about present day. By large blacks are the only beneficiaries of affirmative action in present day America. If you studied the evidence that I sent you in the past, you would understand this. You're just in denial.
"That is the point of Affirmative Action, to help qualified people get a chance." That isn't the point of AA. It may have started that way but it's not about that now. The fact is that there were thousands more qualified than Michelle and they never got a chance. Michelle is a phony. If she was white she wouldn't have gotten into those schools. I don't admire her at all. And BW need to shut up. WW are disrespected much more than BW and they don't complain. Palin has been disrespected far more than that horse face Michelle, who is riding on her husbands coattails. Imagine if Letterman made a joke about Obama's daughters? Black privilege is sickening. Don't worry brohammas , your black wife will still sleep with you. You don't have to kiss black folks ass 24/7.
No, you're ignorant asshole. In today's world no college accepts ww based on them being a woman, nor do most business.
Prove to me that white women don't benefit from affirmative action. Show me the information again. I might not have seen it, but the federal government seems to think the law protects people of color, not just blacks and WHITE WOMEN.
That isn't the point of AA. It may have started that way but it's not about that now. The fact is that there were thousands more qualified than Michelle and they never got a chance. Michelle is a phony.
Show me where the law says it does not include white women? I again ask you to show me the transcripts and proof that Michelle Obama took the place of a precious white person.
The problem with people like you is, that you have no proof, just racist assumption. The assumption that people of color, primarily black people can't be as intelligent or as hard working as you, and even with proof in your face, you still sit in denial.
Some of us live in states where race based admissions in state schools don't exist. Explain to me why minority enrollment INCREASED instead of DECREASED without AA?
I'll be waiting for the proof.Please don't let it come from Stormfront, or any other racist or uber conservative (read racist) organization. Show me proof that white women do not benefit from AA, that there are no scholarships and programs open to white women. Show me how white women did not benefit from AA? I want the proof.
The only ignorant asshole is you. You can't show me proof, you have none.
This is from the African American Policy Forum http://aapf.org/focus/episodes/oct30.php
"Women benefit tremendously, and white women are the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action programs:
According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women ("Reverse Discrimination," 1995). The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies.
Gender based affirmative action policies that benefit women run the gamut from science camps for girls to policies at the University of Michigan that promote the enrollment of women in engineering programs to breast cancer screenings and women-only domestic violence shelters.
Outreach, recruitment, and scholarships for women ecourage participation in fields like medicine, science, computers and engineering,fields in which they are seriously underrepresented
Government outreach programs ensure that women and minority owned businesses have a fair chance to secure government contracts.
Studies show that affirmative action has brought about significant benefit to women. For example, Between 1972 and 1993:
The percentage of women architects increased from 3% to nearly 19% of the total;
The percentage of women doctors more than doubled from 10% to 22% of all doctors;
The percentage of women lawyers grew from 4% to 23% of the national total;
The percentage of female engineers went from less than 1% to nearly 9%;
The percentage of female chemists grew from 10% to 30% of all chemists; and,
The percentage of female college faculty went from 28% to 42% of all faculty. "
Anon,
hmmm, lets see...
"Phony, Horse face, a_ hole, a_ kisser," and a nice sexual potshot at my wife.
Still looking for a logical response in there to my point of her finishing ahead of all those qualified students.
I'm guessing you are not a WW since you are complaining on thier non-complaining behalf (didn't dude give an apology BECAUSE Palin complained?)
but of course I have to guess because you don't say who you are.
Why not?
smooch smooch.
No, you're ignorant asshole. In today's world no college accepts ww based on them being a woman, nor do most business. That law was written decades ago. I'm talking about present day. By large blacks are the only beneficiaries of affirmative action in present day America. If you studied the evidence that I sent you in the past, you would understand this. You're just in denial.
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Let's get this clear...EVERYDAY is Affirmative Action day if you're white in this country. You may not think so, but try spending just one of your days on this earth as a black person. I'm sure you'll change your tune.
No, you're ignorant asshole. In today's world no college accepts ww based on them being a woman, nor do most business. That law was written decades ago. I'm talking about present day. By large blacks are the only beneficiaries of affirmative action in present day America. If you studied the evidence that I sent you in the past, you would understand this. You're just in denial.
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I tell you what. I don't give a damn if they never take Affirmative action off the books. Blacks should be the beneficiary of alot damn more seeing that Most if not all white people don't have to worry about skin color or ethnicity being a barrier in anything that they want in LIFE. So I don't give a damn about your stats. They don't mean shit to me. All I know is blacks have had to fight for the basics. You I am sure if you are white have not. You could never understand that. So arguing with me about stats does not mean jackshit. what has been unfair to people of color is what I care about no amount of statisitics will ever make me feel any differently. If color wasn;t such a big deal in this country we would not be having this discussion now would we? It's too damn bad that people are sitting around all pissed about blacks getting opportunities because of a law that should have never had to be passed in the first place. Don't blame people of color, blame the ignorant people who lack color who felt we were not worth being considered full human beings. When you think of affirmative action you need to think of your history and then shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down.
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To the anon who says white women do not complain. Please don't be stupid. I work with white women who complain all the damn time. Especially the ones who have everything. White women complain just as much as any other group of women. You are just a racist and nothing you say makes any sense and never will. Therefore it is just a waste of time talking to you. And for saying Michelle is a horseface, may your mother get kicked in the face by one.
The assholymouse should be quite thankful for Affirmative Action, really. If it didn't exist he/she'd have to face the reality that some black folks are doing better than he/she educationally and professionally b/c they simply are better. I don't think his/her ego could take such a hit.
At any rate, if Affirmative Action solely benefits black people, I wonder why The National Organization of Women devotes so much space to the issue.http://www.now.org/issues/affirm/
Most notably, their talking points about AA.
Omigosh! Not the "Blacks are Monkeys" thing again!
Anyways, anyone who says we are monkeys knows that we're truly not deep in themselves so WHATEV!
I think we should start tracking the racist attacks on the First Family. Here is the latest.
US Presidential Portraits
"Don't worry brohammas , your black wife will still sleep with you. You don't have to kiss black folks ass 24/7."
LOL! @ This bitter anon. Can't contain the fact that a BW can actually be a good wife to a White Man? Go take your meds.
Not surprising in the least. Every few months I expect the Rethugs to come out and say something stupid.
"I heard it was the white soldiers who were going around spreading the tail/monkey stories to the locals -- especially in European countries. They were hoping to keep blacks as segregated, feared & hated as they were when back in the States; they especially wanted to keep them away from the European women."
Exactly. The same thing happened when black soldiers were stationed in the Pacific Islands (Samoa) during World War ll. White soldiers were angry that they had to be stationed alongside black men and were also jealous that the native Samoan women were attracted to the black soldiers there so they told Samoans that black soldiers had tails. After that, whenever Samoan women danced with black men they would reach behind their backs to check if they had a tail. Crazy, huh?
One question - what in the world is he doing on Facebook?
Sorry I am late to the party, my computer is fried.
Anyways, thats was the whole point behind the development of the evelution theory was to present blacks as a subhuman species. It has since been used to rob you of your religous rights, but thats another subject for another day.
Uh, hello,?! What do you expect from a man who resides in South Carolina, last I heard most whites down there still think they won the civil war and what's even more ridiculous is that they think they will "rise again", people like him need prayer and frequent reality checks lets hope he gets both and soon.
@Casper: Darwin's theories about common descent, adaptation, and variation, collectively referred to as evolution, were not presented to show blacks or anyone else as "subhuman." If anything, his work in The Descent of Man said that phenotypic differences in groups were simply variation. The closest he came to saying anything about anyone being "sub-" was that the difference in human physical appearance was the result of us all being subspecies of the same human group.
It's like the subspecies of tigers (Siberian, Bengal, Sumatran, Malayan, Indochinese, South China, Balinese, Javan): they're all tigers, they just live in different places and their coloring and size might vary in comparison to each other. Darwin also thought that all religions should be equally valid, so I'm not sure what evolution has to do with a decrease in religious rights.
Racialists, like Agassiz, de Gobineau, and (to an extent) Galton for example, used this work to try to "scientifically" justify the proliferation of whites (read: Nordics, Anglo-Saxons) around the world as nature at work rather than a combination of luck, technology, and disease. Their identities were largely predicated on the superiority of people that looked like themselves, so anything saying otherwise had to be disproven. There is a large body of this "work" because there were few, if any, people in a position to challenge these assertions because they were excluded from the scientific community. It also made people of "Nordic" or "Anglo-Saxon" descent feel better about their ability to remain superior to the unwashed masses of Irish, Southern, and Eastern Europeans immigrating to America en masse.
Agassiz, in particular, took Darwin's work and the work of evolutionists at the time as a personal attack. He, along with his wife and William James (one of the American pragmatists) went to Brazil; there, Agassiz hoped to prove that blacks and whites could not interbreed. They looked everywhere for hierarchy, even stripping down a servant girl and concluding that she was useful because she "[seemed] to have the intelligence of the Indian with the greater pliability of the negro" (Menand, p. 135). Mrs. Agassiz dismissed blacks being similar in intelligence to the Portuguese in Brazil as the result of the Portuguese being "a less energetic and powerful race than the Anglo-Saxon" (p.135).
Needless to say, Agassiz eventually went home empty-handed, but spun his results to show that he had neither been proven nor disproven, so he was still right.
There are people who still advance the separate origins theory (IE all races were created separately, "evolve" separately, and one is superior to all others), but this has nothing to do with evolution or Darwin.
"Needless to say, Agassiz eventually went home empty-handed, but spun his results to show that he had neither been proven nor disproven, so he was still right."
DC,
Don't you just love how these "scientists" keep running around in circles and recycling this particular "theory" and still never come to a real conclusion.
In 1995, only 1,764 black students nationwide (1.7 percent of all blacks who took the test) scored as high as 600 on the verbal SATs; the math scores were even worse. By comparison, 64,950 white students (9.6 percent of all whites who took the test) scored 600 or higher on the verbal SATs. But under affirmative-action guidelines, those black students have been recruited by Berkeley, Harvard and similar elite schools, where the average white student (and the average Asian) had scores at least 100 points higher. At Berkeley, the gap is nearly 300 points. Predictably, blacks drop out of Berkeley at nearly three times the rate of whites.
This is but one of the unspoken nightmares of affirmative action. Simply put, African-Americans are being put in college programs that far exceed their abilities and qualifications.
In 1995, only 1,764 black students nationwide (1.7 percent of all blacks who took the test) scored as high as 600 on the verbal SATs; the math scores were even worse. By comparison, 64,950 white students (9.6 percent of all whites who took the test) scored 600 or higher on the verbal SATs.
Site your source? I bet you can't.
Let us also look at numbers here. We make up how much of the American population? How many of us actually took the test in comparison to white students. Where are those numbers?
Don't quote information from Stormfront and expect me to believe. I was one of those kids who scored better than the majority of the white kids on my college campus. Not all us negroes are dumb like you think.
Those numbers looked familiar those are from the famed "former liberal" turned neo conservative David Horowitz.
He once labeled a Muslim student association at UC Santa Barbara as a radical political group with ties to Al Queda and Hamas and was trying to bring jihad to higher education.He also makes claims of professors brainwashing students on college campuses, and infamously is unable to prove his stories of liberal indoctrination.
He also blames slavery on black people. He also likes receiving funding from the Bradley Foundation and has a propensity to have "racialists" like Jared Taylor (a white nationalist)to write for his publications. He also believes racialism is a direct result of multiculturalism.
Again please give me some REAL numbers. Provide me some real sources of info.
How do you know that you scored better than the majority of the white kids on your college campus? I didn't say all blk people scored poorly on Sat's. I did provide you real sources of info, you're just in denial. As far Horowitz goes, he is right about college campuses. He never blamed blk people for slavery. He has all types of people right for him. There isn't anything wrong with having Jared Taylor write for you. Everybody is entitled to there opinion. Jared isn't a racist, he is just against the far left trying to dehumanize whites. I will give you more examples of SAT scores in the future.
"Simply put, African-Americans are being put in college programs that far exceed their abilities and qualifications"
LOL! This is was your overall point all along. AAs are too dumband should be no where near institutions of higher learning. LOL! you are in for a life time of disappointment. Keep dreaming of Black intellectual inferiority.
@Grata:
What's that line from "Pulp Fiction"? The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence?
@Anonymous on 6/19 @ 7 AM:
The far left, more often than not, is white. Whites are dehumanizing each other? In what way?
If you mean that they want to be honest about the ramifications of colonialism, the social construct of race, white privilege, and people being wrong...how is that dehumanizing?
The moment you find out you're not always right or perfect is often the most humanizing experience a person can have.
"Simply put, African-Americans are being put in college programs that far exceed their abilities and qualifications"
My college (and several others) came to me because of my test scores and grades; I accepted. I wasn't chosen by a talking sorting hat, so I wasn't "put" anywhere in a program.
I guess this is why the advisor for my Graduate School keeps telling me to remember that "grad school is hard"?
Something about my lowly black self from a totally different/unrelated field of study academically outdoing all the "qualified and able" white people that came up through the program's undergrad system just rubs them the wrong way. LULZ.
Sorry Digital Coyote, but I am just not around to much anymore. Do to the time crunch I just did a quick google search on darwin and racist respectively. The second hit down was this. Might be worth a look for ya.
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/12
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