Malcolm was right on so many issues - but the people were not ready to take the steps to benefit from such words. Most people remained "oppressed" because that was the only way of life they understood. Most people had no idea of what "Freedom" looked like so they were afraid to walk into the unknown.
Where the hell are the Malcom X's when you need them? Black women it's up to us to protect us. Get a gun. I was talking to a woman today who told me there was a channel on cable that was a white supremacist network.She said there was a group of white guys who went into a gun shop and told the owner not to sell guns to black people. The owner said he was going to sell guns to whomever he wanted. So the guys found out where he lived and kidnapped his wife and raped her over and over again.
If black women don't think we need to protect ourselves when white men will rape their own women, then you are in trouble. I am prepared to shoot the shit out of any kkk fucker that puts his hands on me. This is not the 1960's and it damn sure isn't the 1860's. So I am hoping these crazy raging racists are taking notice. I will be willing to fight to the death to protect myself and family. Black women protect yourselves.
Malcolm may have been right for his time and day, but he is not right in 2009.
Of course, if I am in a position to prevent harm from coming to any woman (or anybody) I would act in the name of human decency. I as a human being, I don't want to see any woman of any race get abused or raped or have her freedoms oppressed.
However beyond that, Black women are on their own. Especially with today's definition of "protection" i.e if you aren't completely kissing Black women's buttocks in all areas, you aren't protecting them.
The only women I am interested in protecting above and beyond the basic civil and human rights level are the ones in my family (the ones I am on good terms with) and the one that I marry and any female offspring I have with her.
Many Black women want it both ways. She wants freedom and her right to do what she pleases when it suits her and she wants chivalry and protection when it suits her.
Men with common sense will not honor such an irrational double standard. No amount of guilt trips or shaming tactics will change that.
And speaking of double standards, on the same day that Malcolm made that statement, whenever he made it, I wonder what he would have thought about a Black woman being married to a White man using his words to question Black men on how to treat Black women?
Malcolm may have been right for his time and day, but he is not right in 2009.
What changed in 2009?
However beyond that, Black women are on their own. Especially with today's definition of "protection" i.e if you aren't completely kissing Black women's buttocks in all areas, you aren't protecting them.
You are misunderstood in what protection is. Right now black women are being told they aren't worth anything. We our girls are molested, they are told they are "too fast", "trying to trap a man", and "asking for it". When black women are raped, it is either made up, or again something she asked for. When we are beaten,when we are insulted, when we are degraded, men either stay silent, or are the ones doing the insulting, degrading, and beating.
I find it odd that in other races of men you don't see the disdain they have for their women, if they have dislike, they don't publicly broadcast it. Black men are the only race of men who will put other races of women upon a pedestal and say that black women aren't worthy. Much like you did, by indicating black women aren't worthy of protection. Why are other races of women receiving this protection from their men, but black women aren't? Only in America do you see this to be the norm, which is why black men are quick to point out the 70% of black women are alone statistic, but remain silent on why 62% of them are alone as well. We are the only group of women told we are ugly, not just by mainstream media, but by our own men. The only way we can be pretty per black men standards are if we are "mixed" with something, have "good hair", or a really nice weave.
Black women go to school, just like white and asian women, we have careers just like white and asian women, but white and asian women are expected to marry someone on their level financially and education wise, where as black women who desire such things are seen as "uppity" and "too picky".
I think the biggest problem black women face is the fact that we have been conditioned to "protect black men" and the feeling of protection has not been reciprocated. Ask how many black women are willing to date IR in comparison to black men. Black men are quick to be willing to acknowledge the beauty of white, asian, indian, hispanic women, but black women are "nothing but black men" kind of women. You even hear of black women considering man sharing due to the "shortage" of black men.
Many Black women want it both ways. She wants freedom and her right to do what she pleases when it suits her and she wants chivalry and protection when it suits her.
You don't think other races of women do not have this? Seriously? Like I said, we are the only race of women expected to compromise when it comes to a mate, and when we don't want to, we are considered "stuck up".
There is an imbalance and a stark double standard when it comes to black men and black women, and we need to figure out why this is.
I wonder what he would have thought about a Black woman being married to a White man using his words to question Black men on how to treat Black women?
Probably the same way he felt when he was dating white women. Remember Malcolm changed towards the end.
"However beyond that, Black women are on their own. Especially with today's definition of "protection" i.e if you aren't completely kissing Black women's buttocks in all areas, you aren't protecting them."
I can understand where Malcom was coming from on this, but I do see some problems with it use as a broad stroke application. If you notice Malcom refernced what a MUSLIM man would do for HIS woman. He mentioned that as MUSLIMS they were taught to protect THEIR women. He said that a MUSLIM only really gets violent when someone goes to molest HIS woman. Thus he seems to imply that the culture and structure which dictates all of the actions of a Muslim are the basis for the context from which he received his understanding. I.e. the Quran Sura such and such says ABCD, and thus a Muslim will do ABCD to the best of his/her ability.
So I see several things between the lines here. The first question is, can it be assumed that the women in the context he is speaking about are Muslim women? His use of Muslim (man) and the woman of a Muslim, would to me suggest that the Muslim (man) and the woman have some common context with which the Muslim man would draw upon to go out of his way to protect HIS woman, which to me implies so level of cultural, familiar, or matrimonial possession. No different than a woman saying HER man. That means some level of possession on the same basis.
If the above can be found to be true, then it can be understand WHY said Muslim man would be willing to kill to protect HIS woman. 1st, he has a cultural connection and possession of said woman. 2nd I would then have to assume that both are a part of a defined and physical community which gives him the ability to see to her protection. If the two were seperated by hundreds of miles and the woman was accosted on a daily basis, it would be almost impossible for said Muslim to continously protect said woman.
For example, when I lived in Houston, TX I once tried to protect a woman who was living in New Mexico. It was literally impossible. Everytime that something bad happened to her I was not in physical proximity to do anything about it. Outside of quitting my job and living outside of her house, and walking with her 24/7 there wasn't anything I could do.
On the flip side, I remember once being a situation where a woman in my physical community was threatened and all the men in the PHYSICAL community came to her aide. The difference being that the second woman was a part of a community where she was seen, known, and possessed by the community, like all members of the PHYSICAL community.
Generally speaking, people tend to potect those people or things that are in close promimity to themselves, and also that they have some level of possession over. Also, if they have a common stake in protecting said people and things. The only conclusion that I can come to then is that a woman who is outside of a physical commmunity of people (men and woman) who see her as both a part of and a possession of said community, will have a hard time receiving the type of protection that Malcom X was talking about.
These are just my personal thoughts though and I could be wrong.
If you got the wit and energy to speak to me this way, then you should have the wit and energy to fight your own battles.
When you talk this way, this is an indication that you think you can handle me. Well if that is so, then you should be able to handle whoever you think I should be able to handle on your behalf. Call it the transitive property of fighting.
To the commenter who made the comment about black men kissing black women's arses, I think that is a massive overexaggeration.
I cannot speak for all black women in the African diaspora, but as a black woman in the UK, I can say that I do not think that many/some black women want black men to drop to their knees and respect them as if it is a command.
It should be something that is done innately and respected between both black men and women.
I think it is incredibly important for black men to respect black women because black women will carry the line of black people in years to come.
There is nothing wrong in showing a woman respect. That is what makes women fall crazy in love, after all.
I recently did a video I have put up on YouTube concerning an issue that I would love to get feedback on. The video is called Defending the Honor of Black Women it can be found here. The video, along with other videos will posted on my blog as a part of my A Month of Positive Solutions campaign.
If you got the wit and energy to speak to me this way, then you should have the wit and energy to fight your own battles.
When you talk this way, this is an indication that you think you can handle me. Well if that is so, then you should be able to handle whoever you think I should be able to handle on your behalf. Call it the transitive property of fighting.
I wonder what he would have thought about a Black woman being married to a White man using his words to question Black men on how to treat Black women?
Siditty replied:
Probably the same way he felt when he was dating white women. Remember Malcolm changed towards the end.
Menelik said:
Malcolm was dating white women when he was a pimp, a thief and a drug dealer.
The major change he made in his life was to convert to Islam and to become a Black nationalist. He remain both (though converting to mainstream Islam) until the day he died.
Please dont try to imply that he was a racial assimilationist because he was NOT!
21 comments:
atleast malcolm x cared about bw...
Allot of great quotes by Malcolm:
Thoughtful white people know they are inferior to Black people.
Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.
Power never takes a back step - only in the face of more power.
Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it.
Malcolm was right on so many issues - but the people were not ready to take the steps to benefit from such words.
Most people remained "oppressed" because that was the only way of life they understood.
Most people had no idea of what "Freedom" looked like so they were afraid to walk into the unknown.
Malcom X had alot right. Amazingly Farrakhan says the same exact thing. but the Black man of today cant't be bothered.
Malcolm was a TRUE gentleman.
Where the hell are the Malcom X's when you need them? Black women it's up to us to protect us. Get a gun. I was talking to a woman today who told me there was a channel on cable that was a white supremacist network.She said there was a group of white guys who went into a gun shop and told the owner not to sell guns to black people. The owner said he was going to sell guns to whomever he wanted. So the guys found out where he lived and kidnapped his wife and raped her over and over again.
If black women don't think we need to protect ourselves when white men will rape their own women, then you are in trouble. I am prepared to shoot the shit out of any kkk fucker that puts his hands on me. This is not the 1960's and it damn sure isn't the 1860's. So I am hoping these crazy raging racists are taking notice. I will be willing to fight to the death to protect myself and family. Black women protect yourselves.
He makes a good point about men protecting women, but seeing this clip makes me wonder how Denzel did not win the Oscar for this role.
Denzel was robbed.
Malcolm may have been right for his time and day, but he is not right in 2009.
Of course, if I am in a position to prevent harm from coming to any woman (or anybody) I would act in the name of human decency. I as a human being, I don't want to see any woman of any race get abused or raped or have her freedoms oppressed.
However beyond that, Black women are on their own. Especially with today's definition of "protection" i.e if you aren't completely kissing Black women's buttocks in all areas, you aren't protecting them.
The only women I am interested in protecting above and beyond the basic civil and human rights level are the ones in my family (the ones I am on good terms with) and the one that I marry and any female offspring I have with her.
Many Black women want it both ways. She wants freedom and her right to do what she pleases when it suits her and she wants chivalry and protection when it suits her.
Men with common sense will not honor such an irrational double standard. No amount of guilt trips or shaming tactics will change that.
And speaking of double standards, on the same day that Malcolm made that statement, whenever he made it, I wonder what he would have thought about a Black woman being married to a White man using his words to question Black men on how to treat Black women?
And Denzel should have won for this and not "Training Day."
Malcolm may have been right for his time and day, but he is not right in 2009.
What changed in 2009?
However beyond that, Black women are on their own. Especially with today's definition of "protection" i.e if you aren't completely kissing Black women's buttocks in all areas, you aren't protecting them.
You are misunderstood in what protection is. Right now black women are being told they aren't worth anything. We our girls are molested, they are told they are "too fast", "trying to trap a man", and "asking for it". When black women are raped, it is either made up, or again something she asked for. When we are beaten,when we are insulted, when we are degraded, men either stay silent, or are the ones doing the insulting, degrading, and beating.
I find it odd that in other races of men you don't see the disdain they have for their women, if they have dislike, they don't publicly broadcast it. Black men are the only race of men who will put other races of women upon a pedestal and say that black women aren't worthy. Much like you did, by indicating black women aren't worthy of protection. Why are other races of women receiving this protection from their men, but black women aren't? Only in America do you see this to be the norm, which is why black men are quick to point out the 70% of black women are alone statistic, but remain silent on why 62% of them are alone as well. We are the only group of women told we are ugly, not just by mainstream media, but by our own men. The only way we can be pretty per black men standards are if we are "mixed" with something, have "good hair", or a really nice weave.
Black women go to school, just like white and asian women, we have careers just like white and asian women, but white and asian women are expected to marry someone on their level financially and education wise, where as black women who desire such things are seen as "uppity" and "too picky".
I think the biggest problem black women face is the fact that we have been conditioned to "protect black men" and the feeling of protection has not been reciprocated. Ask how many black women are willing to date IR in comparison to black men. Black men are quick to be willing to acknowledge the beauty of white, asian, indian, hispanic women, but black women are "nothing but black men" kind of women. You even hear of black women considering man sharing due to the "shortage" of black men.
Many Black women want it both ways. She wants freedom and her right to do what she pleases when it suits her and she wants chivalry and protection when it suits her.
You don't think other races of women do not have this? Seriously? Like I said, we are the only race of women expected to compromise when it comes to a mate, and when we don't want to, we are considered "stuck up".
There is an imbalance and a stark double standard when it comes to black men and black women, and we need to figure out why this is.
I wonder what he would have thought about a Black woman being married to a White man using his words to question Black men on how to treat Black women?
Probably the same way he felt when he was dating white women. Remember Malcolm changed towards the end.
"Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery."
I love this quote. Malcolm was a wise man for sure.
"However beyond that, Black women are on their own. Especially with today's definition of "protection" i.e if you aren't completely kissing Black women's buttocks in all areas, you aren't protecting them."
Spoken like a true useless Black man.
I can understand where Malcom was coming from on this, but I do see some problems with it use as a broad stroke application. If you notice Malcom refernced what a MUSLIM man would do for HIS woman. He mentioned that as MUSLIMS they were taught to protect THEIR women. He said that a MUSLIM only really gets violent when someone goes to molest HIS woman. Thus he seems to imply that the culture and structure which dictates all of the actions of a Muslim are the basis for the context from which he received his understanding. I.e. the Quran Sura such and such says ABCD, and thus a Muslim will do ABCD to the best of his/her ability.
So I see several things between the lines here. The first question is, can it be assumed that the women in the context he is speaking about are Muslim women? His use of Muslim (man) and the woman of a Muslim, would to me suggest that the Muslim (man) and the woman have some common context with which the Muslim man would draw upon to go out of his way to protect HIS woman, which to me implies so level of cultural, familiar, or matrimonial possession. No different than a woman saying HER man. That means some level of possession on the same basis.
If the above can be found to be true, then it can be understand WHY said Muslim man would be willing to kill to protect HIS woman. 1st, he has a cultural connection and possession of said woman. 2nd I would then have to assume that both are a part of a defined and physical community which gives him the ability to see to her protection. If the two were seperated by hundreds of miles and the woman was accosted on a daily basis, it would be almost impossible for said Muslim to continously protect said woman.
For example, when I lived in Houston, TX I once tried to protect a woman who was living in New Mexico. It was literally impossible. Everytime that something bad happened to her I was not in physical proximity to do anything about it. Outside of quitting my job and living outside of her house, and walking with her 24/7 there wasn't anything I could do.
On the flip side, I remember once being a situation where a woman in my physical community was threatened and all the men in the PHYSICAL community came to her aide. The difference being that the second woman was a part of a community where she was seen, known, and possessed by the community, like all members of the PHYSICAL community.
Generally speaking, people tend to potect those people or things that are in close promimity to themselves, and also that they have some level of possession over. Also, if they have a common stake in protecting said people and things. The only conclusion that I can come to then is that a woman who is outside of a physical commmunity of people (men and woman) who see her as both a part of and a possession of said community, will have a hard time receiving the type of protection that Malcom X was talking about.
These are just my personal thoughts though and I could be wrong.
Spoken like a true useless Black man.
If you got the wit and energy to speak to me this way, then you should have the wit and energy to fight your own battles.
When you talk this way, this is an indication that you think you can handle me. Well if that is so, then you should be able to handle whoever you think I should be able to handle on your behalf. Call it the transitive property of fighting.
To the commenter who made the comment about black men kissing black women's arses, I think that is a massive overexaggeration.
I cannot speak for all black women in the African diaspora, but as a black woman in the UK, I can say that I do not think that many/some black women want black men to drop to their knees and respect them as if it is a command.
It should be something that is done innately and respected between both black men and women.
I think it is incredibly important for black men to respect black women because black women will carry the line of black people in years to come.
There is nothing wrong in showing a woman respect. That is what makes women fall crazy in love, after all.
I recently did a video I have put up on YouTube concerning an issue that I would love to get feedback on. The video is called Defending the Honor of Black Women it can be found here. The video, along with other videos will posted on my blog as a part of my A Month of Positive Solutions campaign.
If you got the wit and energy to speak to me this way, then you should have the wit and energy to fight your own battles.
When you talk this way, this is an indication that you think you can handle me. Well if that is so, then you should be able to handle whoever you think I should be able to handle on your behalf. Call it the transitive property of fighting.
Spoken like a true useless Black man.
Truth b told said:
I wonder what he would have thought about a Black woman being married to a White man using his words to question Black men on how to treat Black women?
Siditty replied:
Probably the same way he felt when he was dating white women. Remember Malcolm changed towards the end.
Menelik said:
Malcolm was dating white women when he was a pimp, a thief and a drug dealer.
The major change he made in his life was to convert to Islam and to become a Black nationalist. He remain both (though converting to mainstream Islam) until the day he died.
Please dont try to imply that he was a racial assimilationist because he was NOT!
Menelik Charles
London England
Grata said:
Malcom X had alot right. Amazingly Farrakhan says the same exact thing. but the Black man of today cant't be bothered.
Menelik said:
Million Man March anyone?
Menelik Charles
London England
Grata said:
Malcom X had alot right. Amazingly Farrakhan says the same exact thing. but the Black man of today cant't be bothered.
Menelik said:
Million Man March anyone?
Menelik Charles
London England
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