The is Lou Jing. She is a contestant on a show called "Let's Go! Oriental Angel", which is an "American Idol" or "Pop Idol" type show in China. She is a finalist on the show. If you can't tell she is half black, but she never knew her black American father and was raised in China with her Asian mother. Her mother is from Shanghai, Jing herself was raised in Shanghai and speaks fluent Shanghai dialect. Apparently even though Jing was born and raised in China, she is still a foreigner because of her skin color. Various comments have been made about her and her mother, and many of them according to American standards, would be racist as all get out.
Some examples of comments made about her and her mother:
Shanghai people’s value plunges.
A bastard, brought her out to show off because of the foreigner descent.
The girl is ok, her mom is a whore, married and still mess around with black guy, maybe it’s the great “love”, it’s a pity the black guy was just playing her, Chinese girls please have some self-respect.
Her mother still has the face to go on stage, she is shameless, and this kind of thing is definitely scandals you should keep in the family. She still dares to go on stage, maybe she does not feel ashamed, instead feels proud.
Is this the legend of the bastard? And an unwanted bastard, Her mother is a shameless woman, pregnant by a black guy, and then abandoned, was it good when he was pleasing you? Still obsessed with him after several decades? Not feel ashamed, even go on TV to look, looking for what? Looking for lost big XX? Looking for climax never had again? Shameless! Why are Shanghai women always the target of criticism? It’s because of shameless bitch like her!
Dragon TV please help this bastard find her family. Let the black father with a big XX hurry back, address this old woman’s needs!
Black Dad, come back soon! Someone cannot forget your big XX.
This woman has no sense of shame, married and you cheat, give birth to a black kid so there is no way to hide, if wasn’t for that her husband will have to raise their children. Cheap is the word, in order to run with a foreigner, even do with black people.
There were people who opposed these comments, but even then, some of them were kind of backhanded compliments:
Why all people in here are like this? What kind of world is this!!!!
Her mother, I don’t know. But everyone is discriminate against blacks? If her father is white, what will you say then?
People, please be kind, girl herself is not wrong. Why can’t she go on TV? F* that, I cannot help but to curse. I think even she is a little dark, but very cute~
You guys are a group of twisted people.
I guess it is good to know even if she is "a little dark", she can still be deemed attractive.
It appears that Chinese media has discussed the racism on the internet, and even as they do that, the comments reflect even more racism.
Someone in one of the comment did make a great point, if this girl was mixed with white, would she have gotten a different response. It seems Asians are ok with white, but black is unacceptable.
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I was actually a bit surprised at the degree of racism/fear of black man's penis in the comments. There's gotta be a middle ground between the seeming lack of shame seen among far too many AA's and the sentiment that if you're an afroasian love child you shouldn't even go on TV.
My sister has lived on the West Coast for over a decade and she shared her outrage with me at the CONSISTENT, ANTI-BLACK RACISM she has endured from Asians/AW (from various Asian groups), especially when she is with her White boyfriend.
I was especially disgusted at the OBVIOUSLY DISCRIMINATORY way my sister would be treated IN CONTRAST to the respectful/overly deferential way her White boyfriend was treated when they were together.
It is easy to understand why MANY Asians have benefitted from "model minority" status in America in comparison to BP when MOST of them have been so willing to perpetuate ANTI-BLACK RACISM/HATE in their communities.
I have a WW friend who has lived in China for nearly a decade and she CONFIRMED the FACT that there is DEFINITELY ANTI-BLACK RACISM/HATE in Chinese culture coupled with PRO-WHITE WORSHIP.
It's important that the DISGUSTING/SHAMEFUL ANTI-BLACK RACISM/HATE present in MOST Asian cultures/people be EXPOSED/CHALLENGED.
Hi Siditty,
Racial hatred against those of African descent isn't just a White/Black issue.
U
China makes absolutely no bones about the fact that they despise Blacks. The country's standards for hiring ESL tutors for their children are blatantly anti-Black; you can be a more-qualified ESL teacher than any White person alive, but if you're Black, China doesn't want you.
And the Chinese are smiling with half their face while holding these anti-Black sentiments, plying Black Africans with money and pats on the back in preparation for basically colonizing South Africa. China isn't concerned with cultural/racial sensitivity, which may well be the reason behind their eventual success in monopolizing South Africa's resources.
And yes, the Chinese do respect Whites more. But so does every one else. The image that most of the world has of Blacks is of a race riddled with crime, cholesterol, and Christ, a race that is stupid, lazy, absolutely undesirable for marrying or breeding. And it makes not a wit of difference if the individual Black in question is resourceful, competent, intelligent, hard-working, and respectful; they're still Black, and that weighs heavier than their character.
It's unfortunate the young singer has to face so much disgust and hatred from her countrymen, but that's the reality of the Black diaspora: outside of Africa, there isn't a country in the world where the native-born Black is anything other than a foreigner, and despised for it.
sigh, seriously SIGH! i'm so tired of asian people and their asian selves kissing the white mans/womans butt.
it's disgusting, have some damn pride you wannabe whites!
lol, i'm getting so worked up over this but it's because i am so tired of people taking things so personally and sticking their noses in other peoples business: what the hell does it have to do with you if someone decides to marry/mate/sex a black person!? get a friggin' life!
Do these asians know how pathetic they sound?
And when i'm out with my white bf, omg, the only people who rudely stare and have a genuin shock (not the kind when people are so obviously trying to make you feel uncomfortable by playing "shocked" so to hurt your feelings*cough* most white women*cough) are asian people.
I've always said the most racist people, in my experience, have been asians, they are openly racist to blacks and see nothing wrong with it, it's like we were the ones who dropped the damn hiroshima bomb on them and it's like WE lower, dirty blacks were the ones who went to vietnam and raped asian women and killed asian men: we as black women haven't done them a damned thing yet they are so racist to us.
When i look at that girl i think she is beautiful, especially compared to the asian women standing next to her but seeing how brainwashed most asians are they probably couldn't tell even if they tried.
They've earned their little gold star for worshipping anything white and probably don't care if they look pathetic but atleast leave US alone and out of it. damn.
and the asian guys who keep talking about the black mans you know what need to stop being so jealous and pathetic. Have some pride, what's wrong with people!?
It always amazes me when people identify so strongly with those that have (historically) oppressed them that they begin to hate what and who their oppressor has hated.
Ronia, i agree with everything you said except the last part.
You see i'm an african, born and raised in sweden (currently in London for studies and part-ay ;)) and i have had a pretty racist free life in sweden.
Maybe that's why i get so worked up and angry everytime i see someone white thinking they are better then me: it's like "wth!?" lol, you're not! and i don't think you are! get over yourself, you're white and that might give you some kind of privilege but you're sure as hell not better than me!"
if anything i have had more trouble with my name lol, someone once said "your name is ugly!" i replied "your face is ugly!"
names can be changed, faces like yours are forever *evil grin*.
Maybe i have had someone say something racist to me but if they have i haven't noticed.
Sometimes, especially here in the UK, people have this annoying habit of, when wanting to hurt someone or be mean without it being so obvious, use sarcasm and dry humor and it's funny because i am a pretty happy gal, laugh alot and always have a smile on my face which seem to annoy people when they're trying to "put me down" lol
Anyways, i'm planning on going home soon because i feel as though the UK, although not very racist is expensive and doesn't feel like "home" ...here i have experienced racism mostly from black people.
and ofcurse asians!
"It always amazes me when people identify so strongly with those that have (historically) oppressed them that they begin to hate what and who their oppressor has hated."
Can we translate this to chinese and send it to some chinese forum?
because they need to read that!
....over, and over again!
I read about this case before and I'm not surprised. No matter how pretty and talented this girl is, the Asian obsession with fair skin is too big. Even if she weren't mixed, just darker than average, she would still be qualified as ugly.
I know a bm (middle-aged serious bussiness-type, not some kid with saggy pants)who speaks Japanese fluently, something at which most Westerners are in awe. He told me that it has happened for him to address Japanese people in Japanese and be ignored, they just turned their heads.
It has happened to me to get compliments from two Asian (Japanese) girls based only on the fact that I'm White and I have a very European sounding name. Two girls who were both waaaaay better looking than I am, I was amazed. At least now I know I'm "big in Japan", like in that Alphaville song.
I'm sure this girl was aware of how people would react to her being on TV, she's probably had to face this kind of attitude since she was born. Maybe the publicity around this case will offer her a career chance in the US or a European country.
This has less to do about "identifying with your historical oppressor" than it does with the nature of China. The Han Chinese (the dominant ethnic group) have light skin and have long looked down on the darker Asians of the south. You can really see this in Singapore where group of the Han came down from China, basically taking over Singapore in 1965. They displaced the darker natives and started a new society.
"it's like we were the ones who dropped the damn hiroshima bomb on them and it's like WE lower, dirty blacks were the ones who went to vietnam and raped asian women and killed asian men:"
Asia is not a monolithic place. It just denotes a geographical location. The Chinese have had a long and brutal history with the Japanese, they were in favor of the Hiroshima bomb. Remember the Japanese killed millions of Chinese during WWII. The Chinese and the Vietnamese have long had conflicts and war has almost broken about the two in just the last thirty odd years. Asian countries have differences.
Ronia says,
China makes absolutely no bones about the fact that they despise Blacks. The country's standards for hiring ESL tutors for their children are blatantly anti-Black; you can be a more-qualified ESL teacher than any White person alive, but if you're Black, China doesn't want you.
laromana says,
Ronia,
You are absolutely correct about China's BLATANT ANTI-BLACK RACISM as it relates to ESL tutors. My WW friend confirmed that she has known of highly qualified Black ESL candidates who were rejected SOLELY because they were Black, while White ESL candidates were quickly hired.
This CLEAR ANTI-BLACK RACISM in the U.S.,China, and throughout the Asian world needs to be CHALLENGED/DESTROYED.
I read that they feel a white ESl teacher will be more 'professional'.
Whatever that means.
"Asian countries have differences."
I know but to most asians all black people are the same...tell them that not all blacks are alike and inferior to them.
"Asia is not a monolithic place. It just denotes a geographical location. The Chinese have had a long and brutal history with the Japanese, they were in favor of the Hiroshima bomb. Remember the Japanese killed millions of Chinese during WWII. The Chinese and the Vietnamese have long had conflicts and war has almost broken about the two in just the last thirty odd years. Asian countries have differences."
And? so? what has that to do with my post? What i meant was that it seems as if though most asians are quick to follow the 'white man' even though "he" was the one who did all those horrible things not us black women.
I'm just so sick of people hating us and blaming everything on us BW.
Our skin is so offensive to people and bring so much hate...it's so strange and irritating, if you hate us that much LEAVE US ALONE! this is my skin, i'm not going to cover up just so you see less of it so to not offend you.
And how dare that young black girl show herself on national television! the nerve! ::Sarcasm::
i would never go to china, japan yes, but china...no. I'd rather go to russia than china and that is saying alot!
S,
My experiences in the U.K. can be summed up thus:
The only time I ever feel like an American is when I'm on foreign soil.
I find that's a shared sentiment among a lot of military/military-bred Blacks. It's this rather surreal feeling that as long as we're "some other nation's Blacks", our claim to a nationality is respected.
I don't wish for any one to misunderstand--- I love America. It is my country, and I'm probably more patriotic than the Whitest-bred Dixie flag-flying Chevy-driving Toby Keith-worshipping cowboy-hat wearing Southerner in the nation. I realize that America has problems, and I bemoan the racial tension that seems to mount every day, but I'm still an American and I love my country.
It's simply that, in America, I've always felt that my race has permanently relegated me to an "other" category. That I'm only American by default.
When I'm in France or Germany (or, to an extent, Canada, and, oddly, Africa) I might as well be walking around in an Uncle Sam costume, because I am absolutely, wholly, and unequivocally American in the eyes of the locals.
Laromana,
A biracial (White Man/Black Woman) couple I know joined the Peace Corps, and volunteered to be part of an English literacy group that works in China.
They were told that they couldn't be stationed together, because the Chinese locals would be resistant to learning from a Black (nevermind that she is fluent in Cantonese and has a proven track-record as an ESL tutor to Chinese students studying in America). Her Husband is learning Cantonese from her, but he would have been more accepted.
They asked for another assignment. They're stationed in South Africa now, teaching English to South African Blacks, Afrikaners, and (oh irony) the newly-minted "Black Chinese".
Dear Hou,
You're comment was rejected. It sounded way too much like Jovent, and I will never a believe an Asian person would say they respect whites more than Asians.
it is really interesting to see this story get more attention. when i first encountered the article on Lou Jing on China Smack there was hardly anything from Western sources.
i was initially shocked when i read the horrendously racist comments about Lou Jing but i was very happy when she responded to these racist comments. personally i do not believe we should be judging China by the comments of some netizens, i mean some people encounter racist websites and make conclusions about the USA...will that be a correct assumption?
i must also mention that the role of Western media in spreading stereotypes about black people is part of this problem. Chinese culture is not inately anti-black. i have had my closest Chinese friends ask me questions after seeing Western potrayals of black people. at least i am there to educate them. and in my experience Asians are very open to that.
i do not believe that people should be jumping into conclusions calling all Chinese racist or whatever. i have met a few racist Chinese and other East Asians and at the same time i have met wonderful and precious friends from China, Japan and Korea. most recently, my Japanese friends have taken to calling me Japanese.
of course these cultures prefer light-skin aesthetically (possibly due to their history) but that does not translate to an automatic hate for dark-skinned black people. i feel China still has a long way to go regarding race but they are getting there.
and furthermore, i think any suggestions that the Chinese (generally speaking) are in awe of white people is completely wrong and baseless. white people living in China (and Japan and Korea) also complain about the racism levelled at them so let's not get it twisted. i have also encountered white people who like to claim that East Asians are soo racist against blacks and in my experience that is usually a way of trying to understand the racism they have faced. like 'i'm a white person in China, i have faced racism. that is just so unbelievable...it must be horrible for any black person.' like i said baseless assumptions. if anyone is interested just search online there are tonnes of white people online complaining about the racism they have experienced in East Asian countries. the first one that comes to mind is debito.org though he is based in Japan.
i do not know if black people are treated differently from white people by Asians and in my experience they are more eager to befriend white people but when they get to know me, they certainly do not treat their white friends better than they treat me.
reading comments online i assumed that Asians were cold, unfriendly and racist. having meet really great people i feel the need to say that things are not always what they seem.
sorry for the long comment.
She's so cute!
Whoa eccentricyoruba, tell us how u really feel. lol
I think you're deflecting the focus of the post. It infuriates me when people write, "it's not racism against black people but against foreigners". Boo freaking whooo. Build a bridge and get over it. Whites may not feel happy in Japanese culture, but they are way more accomodated than blacks. Fact. I'm black and I traveled with an Irish friend and a fellow African American in China and the behavior towards my white friend was very different from interactions with myself and my black friend. They just loved her features, her eyes, her hair and everything about her.
It's great that you have Asians friends but it's almost like a white person claiming, I'm not racist because I have black friends. Your friends may not be racist but that doesn't mean that some Asians (Japanese, Chinese, Koreans) aren't racist.
"[T]he seeming lack of shame seen among far too many AA's..."
Huh? What does that have to do anything?!
You just couldn't resist the urge to denounce African Americans by tossing that non sequitur in there, could you?!
During the Olympics in China blacks were banned from bars. You can see the story here.
I heard about this story a couple of days ago, via a friend of mine who's bi-racial (white and Asian) and she pointed out the same thing you did Siditty: if she had been mixed with white instead of black, this probably wouldn't be an issue...in fact she very well may be celebrated as more beautiful. As my friend said "the reason this is an issue is because she looks black."
There's definitely a strong racist element to this, as well as a huge heap of ignorance but please keep in mind China's not exactly an open society. Foreigners (not just black foreigners, ALL foreigners) are still seen with suspicion by some in China. Combine that with the limited access to the outside world (yes, the Chinese government does still block quite a few internet sites from even reaching Chinese customers) and the limited contact with non-Chinese folks and you get crap like what is happening to this poor girl and her mother.
When I was in China I met folks who had never seen a black person in real life before, let alone talked to a black person...I got stared at a good chunk of the time I was there and even had folks come up to me and ask to take pictures with me (they at least asked...some folks just straight up walked up to me and took pictures). The image too many folks have in China (and quite frankly in a lot of countries) is the stereotypical stuff that's beamed to them via Hollywood, and that includes the "big black man with the big black penis." But if they have little to no contact with actual black people, how will those attitudes change?
This is not a defense of nor am I excusing what some ignorant, small minded, racists folks said. I'm just saying that the racism is wrapped up in the insular nature of China and it's difficult to separate the two. And it's unfair to characterize all Asians as racist because of some internet morons.
Sigh...hopefully this whole incident will force China to take a look at itself and question the conventional idea of what it means to be Chinese. I doubt it (I'm getting cynical in my old age), but I certainly hope so.
@ Anon: That's not a non-sequitur, its a comparison because I don't believe that AA's would react in such a way to the product of an BW/AM love child situation going on american Idol. Another reason why I put that part in is because I'm being critical of how much shame these commenters are unfairly trying to hoist on this girl and her mother. That critique coming from a BW basically seems like an open invitation for someone to come along and point out that chinese culture is more conservative, which is why they and their civilization are so much better, etc...you see where I'm going? It's not b/c I want to drag out our *ish and draw attention to it.
I would like to know who the anti Lou Jing comments are really for. How can millions of people have so much hate for one little girl? What has she personally done to deserve the outrage and hostility?
Yes, her mother had an affair - no doubt that is wrong, but the hatred is focused on the race of the man with whom she had the affair, rather than the affair itself.
A happy ending would be for Ms. Jing to come to the US and meet her biological father.
Also, in closing, I've worked with Asians before (worked at one of their companies) and I was surprised at how nice they were (at least to my face). Was expecting cold, icy people, but they were actually quite friendly. But that was in Toronto, which is pretty multicultural. I guess they are different in their own countries.
The American media is very pervasive and has exported the negative stereotypes of Black Americans abroad. Think about it, if all you knew of black people was what was available on cable tv you'd think we were a bunch of ugly violent oversexed idiots too. Most of us have encountered Americans black or other who told us we did not "act black", whatever that means.
Without this constant flood of negative stereotype media on black would meet us and be curious but they would not hate us on sight.
She is adorable! I have to say, though, genes are fascinating. I could not tell she was half Asian by looking at her.
Re: China's Isolation- I don't necessarily buy that as a reason why there are racist comments like those posted. 1. American media portrays any non white person in stereotypical ways, including Asian. If Asians in Asian countries no well enough to see the Asian on screen/TV as just fictional characters or not representative of the whole bunch, that same consideration should be extend to non-Asians (in this case, Blacks). Not all black are on welfare or pushing drugs, just like not all Asians are prostitutes, chase GIs, speak broken "engrish", or are kung-fu masters.
2. These posters were using the internet to express their racism. This wonderful tool has images (good and bad, stereotypical and representative) of every race and information about almost anything/one you're interested in (depending on local restriction). The only ignorance they have is willful ignorance.
3. Posters who didn't share their sentiments were (I'm assuming) from the same country, region, or continent and understood that you shouldn't judge a person as inferior or shameful based on who they sleep with, mate with, and/or the color of their skin.
4. Chinese Americans I've dealt with personally and those that post on message boards I used to frequent are just as racist as those whose Siditty highlighted.
"Let the black father with a big XX hurry back, address this old woman’s needs!
Black Dad, come back soon! Someone cannot forget your big XX."
Seems someone has been watching a lot of (bootleg) American porn.
Yes, I've heard of this and admired this young woman for her strength in the face of all the negativity.
I have to agree, thelady. I've had a few LE partners who were Chinese. One asked me about "blacks" in America and wanted to know what if what he heard was true. I was upset because apparently he was mostly getting his information from a White American Male who had befriended him.
My Japanese LE partners both said that if I went to Japan, they would stare at me because of the non-existent contact with Blacks period. She thought it might be hard for me to enjoy myself because of it.
On another note, like the poster above, I've had the opportunity to date and be-friend East Asians here and it's been positive for me. They've all told me though that they are not the typical Asians, which I'm guessing they meant not so traditional and more independent thinking.
WOW! LOL!
I think by now there is general consensus that racism is very a live and we just need to learn to live with that reality. As long as it is contained not to interfere with a Black person's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness alot of this stuff should be seen as some bizarre side show and the failure of the rest of humanity to acceopt the humanity of Blacks.
Th fight against racism is most effective when done by those with the power to oppress Blacks. Beyond that, I think Blacks have said enough already. Personally I am seriously in favor of self segregation.
Not sure if this is relevant to the topic at hand, but reading these comments reminds of a couple incidents where I work.
The young lady who handles the payroll for our building is black. She would always have problems with a particular employee (of Asian decent) because the employee would always give her grief over something that SHE (meaning the employee) did wrong.
And she seemed to never accept the answer that my friend/co-worker would give to her, and instead climb over her head to my supervisor (who is white), who would basically give her the same answer.
@Anonymous who addressed me
it was/is not my intention to deflect the post, i just used my personal experiences in my comment as i felt they were more 'real'.
i did NOT say that there is no racism against black people in East China, i said there is also racism against whites as well in order to challenge any ideas that all East Asians automatically love everything white as they do not (at least not all of them).
again, i NEVER said that there were no East Asian racists. i don't even remember implying such a thing as it will obviously be wrong. (i have met sole East Asians i felt were racist) all i'm saying is that no one should assume that ALL East Asians are racist and that East Asian culture is inately racist because that is a terrible misinformation.
ok i have never been to China and your experiences are your experiences. however, i'm sure if i were to go to China with a white friend, my experiences would be very different.
i have also been complimented for my hair and my features by East Asians who came over to the UK from their countries for the first time. i may have been the first black person they met even.
(and i do tell how i really feel, i am honest like that)
China is a weird country.. they do not give out passports at all.
My friend was born and live their all her life and still can't get a chinese passport. She is considered a foreigner and needs a visitor visa to go home each yr after uni.
Anon says,
-I think you're deflecting the focus of the post. It infuriates me when people write, "it's not racism against black people but against foreigners". Boo freaking whooo. Build a bridge and get over it.
-Whites may not feel happy in Japanese culture, but they are way more accomodated than blacks.
-Fact. I'm black and I traveled with an Irish friend and a fellow African American in China and the behavior towards my white friend was very different from interactions with myself and my black friend. They just loved her features, her eyes, her hair and everything about her.
-It's great that you have Asians friends but it's almost like a white person claiming, I'm not racist because I have black friends.
-Your friends may not be racist but that doesn't mean that SOME Asians (Japanese, Chinese, Koreans) aren't racist.
Ronia says,
-China makes absolutely no bones about the fact that they despise Blacks.
-The country's standards for hiring ESL tutors for their children are blatantly anti-Black; you can be a more-qualified ESL teacher than any White person alive, but if you're Black, China doesn't want you.
-And yes, the Chinese do respect Whites more.
-And it makes not a wit of difference if the individual Black in question is resourceful, competent, intelligent, hard-working, and respectful; they're still Black, and that weighs heavier than their character.
laromana says,
Anon and Ronia,
I agree completely with your comments regarding the FACT that ANTI-BLACK RACISM/HATE is a part of MOST Asian countries/cultures. NOTHING that has been posted on this topic changes that FACT.
RANDOM/ISOLATED incidences of more open minded/less Anti-Black racist Asians DON'T CHANGE this FACT either.
It's sad to read this post. I have heard from friends that there are alot of racism in China.
@ Anon: That's not a non-sequitur, its a comparison because I don't believe that AA's would react in such a way to the product of an BW/AM love child situation going on american Idol.
Yes, it most certainly is a non sequitur.
Since you obviously didn't both to look it up, "Non sequitur" means "it does not follow", and, as you didn't bother to tie in your mess about "the seeming lack of shame seen among far too many AA's" to a story that pertained to the overwhelmingly racist CHINESE reaction to a Chinese national who is half Chinese/half Black and who appeared on a TV show in CHINA, it was indeed a non sequitur.
Hou, yes you did, I still have your comment, I will not post it. I quote, using copy paste:
As an Chinese immigrant, I will always respect whites more than Asians.
So tell me who is lying. Very last paragraph of your long winded racist diatribe.
@ Anon: No need to be condescending. I'm commenting on the racism/xenophobia *and* the degree of shame from her illegitimacy. I read a lot of the comments on 3-4 of the sites and a lot of them were both racist *and* critical of the fact that her mother cheated on her husband with a foreigner *and* actually had the baby. There was going to be a racist reaction to her no matter what the circumstances of her conception, however the idea of a black man making a cuckhold out of one of their countrymen and that child being paraded around as a role model added extra vitriol to the reaction.
This story is mostly about racism, but the the cultural stigma of adultery/illegitimate children is *also* at play in the reactions. That's why it follows. However, obviously everyone didn't go through and look at the comments so I should have explained that better in my original post.
You broke Rule #3. Someone named blueskies888 posted the same exact thing you did, word for word on 09/16/2008 on an Asian message board. I also found some of the stuff you said mixed in with another post in the same thread from HandsomeUnicorn.
I know how to use Google. I like how the people there figured out you were a troll too :)
sigh. Im not surprised. I feel badly for Lou Jing and her mother but I do applaud their courage for going on tv. As an asian who grew up in asia, I'd just like to say that not all asians are racist agst black ppl. Some asian groups like the east asians tend to be more racist.. not just to blacks, but to anyone who isnt like them and isnt white. So us asians who dont look east asians and arent light skinned like them, we get the racist treatment as well.
If Lou Jing's father was white, there still will be some hate towards her mother for sleeping with a foreigner or being "loose". BUT Lou Jing wouldnt have to face that much racism because of her white-asian features.
Pan-asian features are huge in asia, to the extent that many women are going under the knife to look like they've got some white in them.. and we're not talking about just double eyelid surgery. Like, they are going all the way, with the cheek implants, nose job, lightened hair and skin.
http://www.chinasmack.com/pictures/chinese-black-couple-shanghai-metro/
Siditty---
That link takes a while to load, but I thought you might find it and the commentary of interest in relation to this thread.
In the video, they refer to her as "chocolate girl" and the male host says "I thought you were Halle Berry!" and they all tell her she looks beautiful and is extremely humble and adorable. They ask her to rank her picture, she says 85 (out of 100), and the host says "You are so humble!" then the other girl says "due to your genes, you have beautiful bone structure (face)" and Lou Jing gets shy. She's a typical Chinese girl in that sense. In fact I think she "acts very Chinese."
I translated that because all these commenters keep saying how hateful Chinese are toward blacks, but the very video that was put up shows that at least for TV the hosts are very complimentary. Racism is still generally looked down upon as an evil force that was used to oppress and humiliate people the world over, INCLUDING the Chinese. If you ask me, they seem quite sincere (even if they're hamming it up for TV, as a Chinese person, I can tell they are being sincere). Especially the woman at the end (the taller one), she was being very sincere in her compliments, even if she rather awkwardly referred to Lou Jing's good genes. My point is: stop letting your preconceptions blind you to the scant evidence that you have (it seems no one here so far has insightful experience on being black in China). It's obvious that many Chinese do NOT feel negatively toward Lou Jing. I know actual Chinese people who have expressed to me that they think black women are beautiful. For example, Whitney Houston is referred to as a "hei zhu bao" or Black Pearl. (This to me is a case of admiring a dignified black woman's beauty with respect, rather than degrading her or flat out hating her). I also know Chinese who are fascinated, rather than disgusted, by black people from the US especially. Don't think just because they stare that they hate you. I have heard East & S.E. Asians, especially Korean, express admiration for the beauty of black people.
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"It always amazes me when people identify so strongly with those that have (historically) oppressed them that they begin to hate what and who their oppressor has hated."
This comment was the most insightful one. Hahah I could translate it into Chinese for you, "S"! I will be sure to spread it too. ;)
Do not be so discouraged people. "A change is gonna come"
I am as shocked by some of the racist comments I have read here as those that I read left by the Chinese posters regarding that lovely young girl. Funny how hate doesn't seem that bad when you are the one dishing it out, but it sure stings when you receive it.
Another wonderful post. Thank you for this blog.
You don't find the examples making the case a bit one sided? I found as many Chinese comments sympathic to Lou Jing when I look on Baidu.com:
“洪晃：我们凭什么歧视混血女孩娄婧” – “Hong Guan: what right do we have to discriminate against mixed blood girl Lou Jin”
“娄婧没有错，对娄母也应多宽容” – “Lou Jing is blameless, her mother deserves understanding too”
“看中国男人怎对娄婧母女发邪火” – “observing Chinese male-chovanism againt Lou mother-daughter”
“娄婧的呼声感人肺腑” – “Lou Jing’s appeal [to find father] moved me to the core”
“娄婧天使舞台证明自己和大家一样” – “Lou Jing’s stage presence proves she is the same as everyone”
“并不是因为她有着奥斯卡影后上海“哈利贝瑞”的称号。而是娄婧切身的故事” – “not because she resembles Halle Barry, but because of her life story”
“勿以肤色论英雄” – Shouldn’t judge by skin color
” “黑珍珠”娄婧证明自我” – “black pearl” Lou Jing proves self-worth
“娄婧比模特儿更美” – Lou Jing is more beautiful than models
“大家多谅解她吧” – people should cut her some slack
“娄婧是个小天使，这与她的肤色无关” – Lou Jing is an angel, matters not what skin color
“黑色只是普通的肤色” – Black is but a normal skin color
“很佩服你的勇气” - I admire your [Lou Jing's] courage
“自认为一番高论的鸟语,首先让我感到你真丢我们炎黄子孙的脸” - your [racist] self-righteous BS made me feel you’ve lost face for all Chinese
“应该让我们所有的人值得同情” - they deserve all our sympathy
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